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Inclusive technology for an inclusive future: NTT DATA's Roli Agrawal on how to build ethical and responsible AI

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Aug 11, 2026
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In this episode of Catalyst, Tammy is joined by Roli Agrawal, who leads AI strategy and sales transformation from theCEO's office at NTT DATA. Roli spent her career moving between technology, consulting and strategy, with prior roles at McKinsey, Bain and Morgan Stanley. She and Tammy have a spirited discussion about bias, the human brain and building systems that increase equity in business and society.

Highlights from the episode include:

  • The silicon paradox. Roli introduces a concept she calls the silicon paradox: the more we automate, the more human skills matter. With AI handling many routine tasks, the work that’s left requires human creativity and judgment.
  • Bias helped humans survive. Bias is an evolutionary feature of the human brain; recognizing patterns helps us conserve energy. But because we’re wired for stereotyping and favoring those who are like-minded, it takes intentional effort to battle back and be inclusive.
  • AI can be a reset button. A lot of organizations have outdated processes and technology that are held together by duct tape and prayers. AI offers a chance to rethink the status quo. What do we want our humans doing? What do we want machines doing? It’s an exciting time to work in technology because AI is that powerful.

Check out the full episode to hear more about Roli’s childhood in India and how it impacts her leadership style. Plus, why inclusive companies outperform their peers.

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Please note that the views expressed in this episode may not necessarily be those of NTT DATA.

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Episode hosts and guests
Tammy Soares
President
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Launch by NTT DATA
Roli Agrawal
Chief Strategy Officer
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NTT DATA
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